Barmaryee vs Hidden Valley

Hidden Valley is the younger of the two, with a median age of 33 against 42 in Barmaryee. In both, most households own their home and the large majority of homes are detached houses. In Barmaryee, most households are couple families. In Hidden Valley, about half of households are couple families. Houses cost more in Barmaryee: a median of $1.26 million, against $770,000 in Hidden Valley, and rent is higher there too. On these figures, Barmaryee tends to suit couples, while Hidden Valley suits families with children and buyers on a tighter budget.

Which one suits you?

There is no overall winner — the suburb that suits a family with school-age kids is routinely the wrong one for someone commuting into the city. So each of these answers its own question, against a checklist you can see, using the same figures in the tables below.

Families with school-age kids

Barmaryee

ahead on 2 of the 6 things we measure here

  • carries lower crime risk (42/100 vs 77/100)
  • is already more of a family suburb (85% vs 68%)

Weighs schools, house stock, crime, parks, childcare, and who already lives there.

First-home buyers

Hidden Valley

ahead on the one thing that separates them

  • has cheaper houses ($770,000 vs $1,262,500)

Weighs house prices and mortgage stress.

Renters

Hidden Valley

ahead on 2 of the 3 things we measure here

  • has a bigger rental market to choose from (42% vs 3%)
  • has cheaper rent ($428/wk vs $500/wk)

Weighs rent, rental stress, and how much is for rent.

Commuting to the city

Barmaryee

ahead on 2 of the 3 things we measure here

  • has a shorter drive in (469 min vs 483 min)
  • sits closer to the CBD (668.8 km vs 684.7 km)

Weighs distance, drive time, and walkability.

Downsizers and retirees

Barmaryee

ahead on 2 of the 5 things we measure here

  • has more residents already 65 and over (18% vs 10%)
  • carries lower crime risk (42/100 vs 77/100)

Weighs smaller dwellings, who already lives there, GPs, walkability, and crime.

Investors

Hidden Valley

ahead on the one thing that separates them

  • is growing faster (108.8% vs 5.4%)

Weighs population growth.

Where they sit

Barmaryee and Hidden Valley drawn to the same scale. Both outlines are shown together, so the map answers whether they share a border and how their areas compare.

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Hides rows where both suburbs match

Bars start at zero. Scores, risks and rankings are drawn against their full 0–100 range; other rows are drawn in proportion to the larger of the two.

Side by side, out of 100

Risks are inverted — shown as safety and low exposure — so a longer bar always means better.

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Walkability 9 / 4
Barmaryee — Walkability: 9/100 Hidden Valley — Walkability: 4/100
Safety 58 / 23
Barmaryee — Safety: 58/100 Hidden Valley — Safety: 23/100
Low fire risk 100 / 100
Barmaryee — Low fire risk: 100/100 Hidden Valley — Low fire risk: 100/100

Demographics

Barmaryee skews older (42 vs 33); Barmaryee rents higher ($500/wk vs $428/wk).

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Population 925
+5% vs other
879
Population trend (2016 → 2021) +5.4% +108.8%
Median age 42 33
Median household income $126,412/yr
+12% vs other
$111,124/yr
Median weekly rent $500/wk
+14% vs other
$428/wk

Age profile

Share of residents in each band, 2021 Census.

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
0-4 5.3% / 6.1%
Barmaryee — 0-4: 5.3% Hidden Valley — 0-4: 6.1%
5-14 14.8% / 18.5%
Barmaryee — 5-14: 14.8% Hidden Valley — 5-14: 18.5%
15-19 8.1% / 6.6%
Barmaryee — 15-19: 8.1% Hidden Valley — 15-19: 6.6%
20-24 3.5% / 6.8%
Barmaryee — 20-24: 3.5% Hidden Valley — 20-24: 6.8%
25-34 9.1% / 15.9%
Barmaryee — 25-34: 9.1% Hidden Valley — 25-34: 15.9%
35-44 12.6% / 14.7%
Barmaryee — 35-44: 12.6% Hidden Valley — 35-44: 14.7%
45-54 14.7% / 14.1%
Barmaryee — 45-54: 14.7% Hidden Valley — 45-54: 14.1%
55-64 14.2% / 7.8%
Barmaryee — 55-64: 14.2% Hidden Valley — 55-64: 7.8%
65-74 12.9% / 6.0%
Barmaryee — 65-74: 12.9% Hidden Valley — 65-74: 6.0%
75-84 3.9% / 3.2%
Barmaryee — 75-84: 3.9% Hidden Valley — 75-84: 3.2%
85+ 0.8% / 0.3%
Barmaryee — 85+: 0.8% Hidden Valley — 85+: 0.3%

Bars are drawn against the largest share shown (18.5%).

Who lives together

Household composition, 2021 Census.

Barmaryee 72.1% couple families
Barmaryee — Couple Families: 72.1% Barmaryee — Lone Person: 15.1% Barmaryee — One Parent Families: 12.8% Barmaryee — Group Household: 0.0%
Hidden Valley 54.1% couple families
Hidden Valley — Couple Families: 54.1% Hidden Valley — Lone Person: 27.9% Hidden Valley — One Parent Families: 14.2% Hidden Valley — Group Household: 3.8%
Couple Families Lone Person One Parent Families Group Household

Who owns and who rents

Occupied private dwellings by tenure, 2021 Census.

Barmaryee 3.2% renting
Barmaryee — Owned Outright: 42.5% Barmaryee — Mortgage: 54.4% Barmaryee — Renting: 3.2%
Hidden Valley 42.2% renting
Hidden Valley — Owned Outright: 22.1% Hidden Valley — Mortgage: 35.7% Hidden Valley — Renting: 42.2%
Owned outright Mortgage Renting

Qualifications

Highest non-school qualification, residents 15+, 2021 Census.

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Certificate III & IV 19.7% / 17.6%
Barmaryee — Certificate III & IV: 19.7% Hidden Valley — Certificate III & IV: 17.6%
Bachelor Degree 10.5% / 5.9%
Barmaryee — Bachelor Degree: 10.5% Hidden Valley — Bachelor Degree: 5.9%
Advanced Diploma / Diploma 5.2% / 4.4%
Barmaryee — Advanced Diploma / Diploma: 5.2% Hidden Valley — Advanced Diploma / Diploma: 4.4%
Postgraduate Degree 1.8% / 1.7%
Barmaryee — Postgraduate Degree: 1.8% Hidden Valley — Postgraduate Degree: 1.7%
Graduate Diploma / Certificate 1.5% / 1.1%
Barmaryee — Graduate Diploma / Certificate: 1.5% Hidden Valley — Graduate Diploma / Certificate: 1.1%

Bars are drawn against the largest share shown (19.7%).

Where residents were born

Largest overseas birthplaces, as a share of all residents, 2021 Census. A dash means that country is not among the suburb's own eight largest.

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
England 2.1% / 3.2%
Barmaryee — England: 2.1% Hidden Valley — England: 3.2%
New Zealand 2.4% / 1.8%
Barmaryee — New Zealand: 2.4% Hidden Valley — New Zealand: 1.8%
South Africa 1.1% / 0.3%
Barmaryee — South Africa: 1.1% Hidden Valley — South Africa: 0.3%
Netherlands 0.6% / —
Barmaryee — Netherlands: 0.6% Hidden Valley — Netherlands: not among its largest
Taiwan — / 0.6%
Barmaryee — Taiwan: not among its largest Hidden Valley — Taiwan: 0.6%
Scotland — / 0.5%
Barmaryee — Scotland: not among its largest Hidden Valley — Scotland: 0.5%
Philippines — / 0.3%
Barmaryee — Philippines: not among its largest Hidden Valley — Philippines: 0.3%

Bars are drawn against the largest share shown (3.2%).

What people live in

Occupied private dwellings by structure, 2021 Census.

Barmaryee 97.3% houses
Barmaryee — Houses: 97.3% Barmaryee — Townhouses: 0.0% Barmaryee — Flats / Apartments: 2.7%
Hidden Valley 92.9% houses
Hidden Valley — Houses: 92.9% Hidden Valley — Townhouses: 8.3% Hidden Valley — Flats / Apartments: 0.0%
Houses Townhouses Flats / Apartments

Property market

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Median house price $1,262,500 $770,000
Median unit price — $790,200
Median land price — $354,990
Typical days to sell (houses) 46 days
from 3 sales
28 days
from 19 sales

Development activity

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
New dwellings approved 317
across Livingstone
same for both
Approvals change year on year +97%
same for both

Gross rental yield

Gross — before strata, rates, management, insurance and vacancy. From median advertised rents and median asking prices over the last 6 months. How we calculate.

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Houses — 4.4%
$700/wk on $834K
Units —
same for both

Ranking within QLD

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
House price —
same for both
Income Higher than 92% of QLD Higher than 83% of QLD
Schools —
same for both
Walkability Higher than 70% of QLD Higher than 67% of QLD
Affordability —
same for both
EV adoption Higher than 53% of QLD
same for both
NBN connectivity Higher than 74% of QLD Higher than 80% of QLD
Rental yield (houses) — Higher than 71% of QLD

Liveability

Barmaryee scores higher overall (60 vs 41).

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Grade B C
Score 60/100 41/100
Socio-economic band advantaged area
decile 8/10
mid-range socio-economic
decile 6/10

Risk profile

Hidden Valley carries more crime risk (77 vs 42).

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Bushfire None
0/100
same for both
Crime Moderate
42/100
High
77/100
Flood Not mapped
no mapped data here
same for both
Coastal erosion None
0/100
same for both
Aircraft noise None
0/100
same for both
Industrial facilities nearby 1
within 5 km
same for both

Schools

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Inside the suburb 0
same for both
Rated above peers 0
same for both
Rated at peers 0
same for both
Rated below peers 0
same for both

Amenities in the suburb

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Cafes & restaurants 0 2
Parks & reserves 1
same for both
Hospitals 0 1
Fuel stations 0 2
Waterways 13 3

Mobility

Hidden Valley sits further from the CBD (684.7 km vs 668.8 km).

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Walkability score 9/100 4/100
Distance to Brisbane 668.8 km 684.7 km
+2% vs other
Drive time (normal traffic) 469 min 483 min
Electric vehicle share 0.3%
postcode 4703
same for both
Rooftop solar per 100 dwellings 68
postcode 4703
same for both

How people get to work

Method of travel on census day 2021 — which fell during COVID restrictions, so working from home is inflated and every travel mode understated.

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Car (driver) 79.5% / 79.7%
Barmaryee — Car (driver): 79.5% Hidden Valley — Car (driver): 79.7%
Worked from Home 9.3% / 10.9%
Barmaryee — Worked from Home: 9.3% Hidden Valley — Worked from Home: 10.9%
Car (passenger) 7.1% / 7.0%
Barmaryee — Car (passenger): 7.1% Hidden Valley — Car (passenger): 7.0%
Bus 2.4% / 1.5%
Barmaryee — Bus: 2.4% Hidden Valley — Bus: 1.5%
Walked Only 1.7% / 0.9%
Barmaryee — Walked Only: 1.7% Hidden Valley — Walked Only: 0.9%

Bars are drawn against the largest share shown (79.7%).

Setting

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Elevation 40 m
above sea level, at the suburb centre
77 m
above sea level, at the suburb centre
Distance to the ocean 5.6 km 4.7 km
4.6 km to a named beach

NBN connectivity

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Connectivity score 63/100 72/100
Most common technology Fibre to the node Fibre to the premises
Full-fibre (FTTP) share 35%
390 premises
57%
266 premises

Climate

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Annual rainfall 1,330 mm
same for both
Summer max (Jan) —
same for both
Winter min (Jul) —
same for both

Air quality (annual mean)

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
PM2.5 4.3 µg/m³
same for both
PM10 8.6 µg/m³
same for both
NO₂ —
same for both

Council rates

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Average residential rate $2,445/yr
same for both
Council Livingstone
same for both

Federal electorate

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Division Capricornia
same for both
Member Michelle Landry
same for both
Party Liberal National Party of Queensland
same for both

First Home Owner Grant

Barmaryee Hidden Valley
Grant amount $30,000
same for both
Property price cap $750,000
same for both
Eligibility New
same for both

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